Thursday, December 18, 2025

Rocky Mountain Powerplay / Dyname Transfer Chain

Transfer Chain

NOTE: This is written for the Dyname 4, but the Dyname 3 is extremely similar regarding the transfer chain.

The Dyname 4 system uses an ANSI #25 roller chain to transfer power from the motor to the through-shaft. Unfortunately, motor sprocket is machined into the motor spindle, which makes replacing/fixing it very difficult. The through-shaft sprocket is also custom, but that at least should be easier to deal with. Regardless, it's in our best interest to prevent either sprocket from wearing as much as possible.

Sprockets primarily wear due to chain elongation, which is turn happens as the chain's pin/link interface wears. As a worn chain mates with the sprocket, the extra length between links causes the chain to ride up on the tooth, and most of the power is transferred through that one tooth until the next tooth engages. This wear a divot into the face of the sprocket's tooth.

The Dyname 3/4 motor sprocket is particularly interesting because it uses o-rings on either side of the sprocket which the chain actually rides on. The chain rollers only engages the face of the sprocket tooth, so as the chain wears it doesn't have the opportunity to ride up on the tooth. The chain wears a groove into the o-rings, so the o-rings lose their effectiveness before it's readily apparent that they're worn.

NOTE: The maintenance intervals mentioned below are very aggressive because doing the maintenance is fast, cheap, and easy, while the costs of sprocket wear are very high. Therefore we always want to do the maintenance before the maintenance is actually needed and parts can begin to wear.

To keep the sprockets from wearing, we want to:

- Regularly replace the transfer chain.
- Regularly lubricate the transfer chain.
- Regularly replace the motor sprocket o-rings.


Replace the transfer chain

I don't want to wait until the transfer chain has notable wear before replacing it in order to minimize sprocket wear. Therefore I plan to replace the chain on a fixed interval. The original Tsubaki chain went 450 miles 0.25% elongation, so I think replacing it at 200 mile intervals is extremely safe. Since new chain usually comes in 10 foot sections, it should last 1,800 miles. For me that works out to approximately $10 per 200 mile replacement.

Tsubaki is a quality Japanese manufacturer, and their prices reflect that, However, they are available on the surplus market at a reasonable price. Timken also makes high quality #25 chains under the Diamond name (www.diamonddrives.com). ANSI #25 roller chain is readily available from other manufacturers and through Amazon and McMaster-Carr (and many other online sellers), though the quality and change interval on those is unknown. 

The stock Dyname 4 chain is only 26 links long (including the connecting link), so a single replacement chain should last through several replacement intervals. Be sure to use a new connecting link when replacing the chain. 

NOTE: Unfortunately, it does not appear anyone makes an o-ring or x-ring #25 chain, which would be ideal. If anyone finds one, please comment here to let me know.


Lubricate the transfer chain

Depending on what documentation you're looking at, Rocky Mountain says to use standard chain lube or Park Polylube 1000. Both of these recommendations are wrong:

- The chain is enclosed, so there's no reason to use dry lube or dirt shedding wet lube, and the lubricant can be optimized to reduce wear/elongation.

- Grease cannot get inside the rollers and plates, so it won't lubricate where the chain actually needs to be lubricated to prevent wear/elongation.

Tsubaki, the chain's manufacturer, recommends using an SAE 20 oil to lubricate the chain (pages 10-11: https://catalog.ustsubaki.com/view/303394094/10/). Since the chain will be turning at a decent RPM we also want something which is very tacky so it'll stay in place and won't fling off. In my opinion the best option is Mobil Vacuoline 1409 which is a way lubricant designed to minimize wear on very expensive machine tools (a "way" is where the moving parts of a machine tool slide on each other). It's in the same viscosity range as SAE 20, but includes a lot of tackifiers to keep the oil in place and prevent it from being flung off.


A temptation would be using chainsaw bar oil since it's also loaded with tackifiers, but all the ones I've looked at were heavier viscosity than the Tsubaki recommendation. 

Tsubaki recommends oiling the chain every 8 hours of use. Lubing the transfer chain is easy, as you only need to remove the 4 bolts holding the left hand motor cover in place. Just brush the oil into the rollers of the chain.

Immersion hot waxing might also be a reasonable alternative, but a bushing chain like the #25 transfer chain is very hard to wax due to the tight tolerances preventing wax getting to the pin. However, Silca does recommend their Synerg-E oil-based lubricant for this application. I haven't tried I myself, but it seems reasonable.

NOTE: Using oil instead of grease on the transfer chain will increase the chain noise slightly.


Replace the motor sprocket o-rings

The stock o-rings appear to be nitrile/Buna-N, size -208, and a 75A-80A durometer, which is problematic because nitrile doesn't come standard in that durometer (nitrile is available in 70A and 90A). 

My solution was using square profile 208 o-rings in a 70A durometer. Because more of the o-ring supports the chain it provides the same chain tension as the stock o-ring as measured by mm slack in the middle of the chain: 8mm for square profile 70A vs. 8.5mm for the stock. This amount of slack is also well below Tsubaki's maximum tension (page 15: https://catalog.ustsubaki.com/view/303394094/14/). The square profile will also better support the chain and reduce the chain eating into the o-rings.

Square profile -208 70A o-rings can be easily be found at any o-ring supplier or at McMaster-Carr: https://www.mcmaster.com/4061T23/

Square profile o-rings installed.

Since I'll be oiling the chain every 8 hours, I'll inspect and potentially replace the o-rings at the same time. 

Saturday, November 29, 2025

Shimano BH90 and BH59 Barb Sizes

Shimano BH90 brake hose is 5mm OD and 2.1mm ID. The OEM barb diameter is 2.35mm. Aftermarket barb diameters range from 2.31mm to 2.39mm.

Shimano BH59 brake hose is 5MM OD and 2.3mm ID. The OEM barb daimeter is 2.6mm. 

The olives are the same for both.

Monday, May 26, 2025

Schwinn Sweetspot Notes

 1. The bushings in 2gen Sweetspots are usually too wide, and you need to pull the rear triangle apart to make it fit over the bushings. Since the rear triangle is pinching the bushings really hard, it adds a lot of friction to the system. To fix this I removed the bushing, and then lapped their outside surface using a sheet of 150 sandpaper on a flat surface, finishing them off with 400 sandpaper. I removed just enough material so the rear triangle is only lightly pinching the bushings. This doesn't introduce any slop in the suspension system, but does remove a lot of friction. I probably wouldn’t try this with the Teflon coated aluminum bushing some Homegrowns use as you can remove the Teflon layer completely. 


2. The front and rear triangle are always slightly misaligned. This causes the shock to bend slightly when installed. This isn't really a problems with the RS coil shocks, but is a problem with the Alps series Fox air shocks. The Alps will partially bind, which adds a lot of stiction to the shock, and can also cause a shaft failure, as it's having to support a lot of sideways force it was never meant to support. I wonder if Schwinn started specing the coil shocks so they wouldn't have to deal with this issue. To fix the problem, mount one end of the shock in the frame, and then see how far it's off at the other mount. You can then either install a shorter bushing on one side, or sand down the outside surface of the existing bushing. Use washers to make up any necessary space between the other bushing and frame. This will center the shock correctly in the frame. The shock will still be forced to bend slightly as it compresses, but it's negligible.

Rocky Mountain Powerplay / Dyname Transfer Chain

Transfer Chain NOTE: This is written for the Dyname 4, but the Dyname 3 is extremely similar regarding the transfer chain. The Dyname 4 syst...